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Old 11-14-2008, 02:30 PM   #541
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While you will absolutely find racist people everywhere, the over arching theme here is that it is most PREVALENT among Southern typically Red states.

That is clear.

Like I said before fuck everyone, the conservative geese are cooked at this point, thank you come again!
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:44 PM   #542
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You guys want to sit here and continually tie racism exclusively to conservatism and it's a complete fallacy. Go to any major urban area and tell me that there aren't racist white democrats. Interview people in white neighborhoods in boston, philadelphia andnew york city, districts and areas that continually vote for democrats and I guarantee you will find the same types of racism present that you would in the south. I live in the city dude, and I fucking see it. One of the bartenders at the bar I work at is black, and he has had numerous run ins with people calling him a nigger in this area of the city. You can't defend the democratic party as some group of individuals on white horses who have absolutely no responsibility for the current state our country is in. On the flipside, somebody who votes Republican can't do the same thing either to defend their respective party. Take the fucking blue glasses off for just a moment and try looking at this issue in the middle. I can't exclusively defend Republicans, nor can you exclusively defend Democrats, and it's infantile to think otherwise.
First off, it was you and Ryan bitching about the stereotype that all republicans are racist that started this off. I don't think anybody brought up republicans and racism before that. And as fucked up as it may be, stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.

So what if your area votes democratic and there are still racists? That is supposed to prove democrats are racist too? All that means is that at least half of the people there voted democratic. It doesn't mean there aren't a bunch or racist republican assholes too that are just out numbered. And I don't think anybody has any illusions that all racism is coming exclusively from republicans. Just the majority of it. And if you think that is a fallacy, then you are in complete denial. I'm sure there are democrats that are racist too, but not nearly as many.

And I don't even consider myself a democrat. This election was the first time I've ever voted for a democrat. I voted Nader in 2000 and 2004 and if someone other than Obama was running and Ron Paul got the republican nomination this year, I probably would have voted for him. But these neo-conservatives like Bush and Palin can go fuck themselves. They are nothing like republicans are supposed to be and have ruined that party. I'm all for the historical platform of republicans, being fiscally conservative and smaller government. That sounds great to me. But the religious right have taken this party over and fucking ruined it.
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:59 PM   #543
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so what is the point?
Sums up whole argument
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:06 PM   #544
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I voted for Nader in the past two elections as well, and wrote Ron Paul's name in for this election.
How does it feel knowing your vote has never counted?
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:29 PM   #545
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:15 PM   #546
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Everyone here is acting like a complete asshole at this point. Jesus fucking Christ.

Liberals: Give the libertarian view point a good look and understand why people might disagree with you. Also stop pretending that voting 3rd party is throwing your vote away. That is so profoundly unAmerican and stupid that I can't imagine any adult actually making it.

Conservatives: Stop calling Obama a socialist because he raises taxes on the people who are currently paying the lowest tax rate of anyone in the country. The figures you always bring up are bullshit because they don't take into account payroll taxes. If there were payroll taxes on everything and not just the first 90K you're right it would be fair, but there aren't and the rich do not pay the same percentage as the poor. They pay more (because 10% of 50,000 is still more than 30% of 500), but they only pay more on average. Also if your family was doing well under Clinton you'll do well under Obama because his tax code just puts the tax rates of the rich back to what they used to be. They're still lower than they were under Nixion and Ronnie.

Everyone take a deep breath before they post and stop with the bullshit generalizations.
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:30 PM   #547
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But these neo-conservatives like Bush and Palin can go fuck themselves. They are nothing like republicans are supposed to be and have ruined that party. I'm all for the historical platform of republicans, being fiscally conservative and smaller government. That sounds great to me. But the religious right have taken this party over and fucking ruined it.
this is and has always been my exact point. i never bitched about the stereotype of all republicans being racist - i have only responded to bullshit generalizations from people on this board who were saying that. im not sure thats the same as bitching about it. your quote perfectly sums up my views about republicans. i grew up in a conservative republican family, and still technically consider myself a conservative republican, mostly fiscally and somewhat socially, i have some liberal views on certain things. either way the current state of the "republican party" aka fucking neocons, sickens me, which is why i so strongly support ron paul. also not every christian who is a republican is a bush/palin neocon, but since the flaming liberal democrats who generalize every republican as a sexist racist gun toting gay hater are just as ignorant as the people theyre talking about, its pointless to try to get that across.
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